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Madelon Vos

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Madelon Vos 22h

Madelon Vos wrote that entrepreneurs, according to the CEO of DSM, needed a reliable government, but did not get one. She stated that Dutch politics trivialized the effects of the income tax in box 2 and the high rates in box 3, and that this policy severely affected entire sectors, including the Dutch crypto and precious metals sector with more than two million investors. Vos wrote that investors had to keep track of their real returns themselves, while some banks and brokers could not provide that data and the Tax Authority had not yet verified the calculations. According to her, investors would want to deduct inflation, transaction costs, currency costs, and subscription costs from that calculation. She also reported that the man who had been at the basis of the law had since advocated for the withdrawal of the amendment and the law and for a new piece of legislation. Furthermore, Vos pointed to the rising interest rates in France and the possible consequences of that for the Netherlands. She wondered if war was looming and wrote that the Netherlands was increasing pressure on Russia. https://t.co/X4T4ze43tV #ondernemen #beleggen #politiek (translated)

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Madelon Vos 3d

Madelon Vos said that she would not let the issue surrounding box 3 rest. She thanked everyone for watching, sharing, and reacting massively, and wrote that her latest video had been viewed more than 100,000 times as a result. https://t.co/kIuyAirfVu https://t.co/Yc12eCnjNt #Box3 #Dankbaarheid #Videocontent (translated)

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Madelon Vos 4d

Madelon Vos wrote that the median invested capital in the Netherlands was €15,000 and that it currently paid nothing on that. According to her, it would pay €180 per year soon. She stated that this would affect ordinary investors, not the super-rich, and asked if readers agreed with her. For more information about the box 3 debacle, she referred to two links. https://t.co/kIuyAirfVu https://t.co/2zXCuZtFb6 #Beleggen #Box3 #Vermogen (translated)

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Madelon Vos 6d

Madelon Vos wrote that the petition about unequal treatment in the Box 3 plans had gathered more than 5,500 signatures. She urged people who supported a level playing field to sign the petition and share her message. https://t.co/bdtCnenykA #petitie #gelijkheid #Box3 (translated)

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Madelon Vos 7d

Madelon Vos wrote that her video about box 3 attracted 50,000 viewers within 24 hours. According to her, the interest showed that there was significant unrest about the tax system. Vos stated that the new system was presented as fairer, but upon closer inspection, it had different outcomes. In the video, she discussed the practical consequences, possible solutions, and the influence of rising interest rates and the real estate market on the assets of savers, investors, and entrepreneurs. https://t.co/hVinv3HF4l #Box3 #Vermogen #Rente (translated)

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Madelon Vos 7d

Madelon Vos wrote that she found it painful that people wanted to leave their homeland due to what she called the ignorance of the Dutch cabinet. She said this was one response out of more than a thousand messages she had received in the past week. According to Vos, more than 50,000 people had viewed the video she had uploaded the day before. https://t.co/hVinv3HF4l #Nederland #Kabinet #Vaderland (translated)

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Madelon Vos 1w

Madelon Vos wrote that the plans for the new box 3 system, which were announced last week, had caused unrest among politicians, savers, entrepreneurs, and investors. Although the capital gains tax was presented as a victory, she argued that small savers and investors would be the victims. Additionally, people would temporarily have to pay taxes annually on paper gains from bitcoin and precious metals, even if they had not sold anything. Vos also pointed to rising global interest rates and a greater interest rate differential between France and Germany. She wondered what that indicated about investor confidence and how much room governments still had if inflation and scarcity of raw materials further pushed up interest rates. According to her, the higher interest rates would also affect the real estate market: Dutch houses could depreciate in real terms next year. In an episode of Madelon Praat, she discussed how taxes, interest, and inflation impacted people's wealth. https://t.co/hVinv3HF4l #belasting #rente #inflatie (translated)

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Madelon Vos 1w

Madelon Vos wrote that a former director of De Nederlandsche Bank described Heinen's actions as financial mismanagement. According to the former director, the failure to mention coverage in a proposal for a change was in violation of its own budgetary rules and constituted a further step towards undermining the position of the Minister of Finance. #financieelbeleid #Nederland #politiek (translated)

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Madelon Vos 1w

Madelon Vos wrote that companies in the precious metals sector spoke out against the unequal treatment in the plans for Box 3. According to her, the government should not treat people differently based on where they store their gold. She urged readers to sign the petition and share her message. https://t.co/36vAe97pcX #Edelmetaal #GelijkSpeelveld #Petitie (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

That crypto and precious metals do not automatically fall into the existing list of exceptions can simply be fixed through a legislative amendment. In short, a fallacy by @Stas_Financien @eelcoeerenberg. Thus states @pesla. Dismissing this with "can't because it's not in the bill" is argumentatively insufficient. #crypto #edelmetaal #wetgeving (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

I just saw the debate between @MPHoogeveen and @Stas_Financien about the difference in taxation between directly held bitcoin, in a wallet or on an exchange (capital gains tax), and bitcoin through an investment product at a bank or broker (wealth tax). @Stas_Financien states that crypto cannot be included in the amendment, because the existing exception for start-ups and scale-ups can only be extended to other securities. But is that really true?! An amendment is a legislative proposal with which you can modify and/or supplement another legislative proposal. The fact that there is currently no exception for crypto (and precious metals) does not automatically mean that you cannot add one. If speed is the reason to accept that difference, then concretely justify why direct crypto/precious metals cannot be included in time. My question would be: What concrete legal provision makes it impossible for crypto/precious metals to be included in the same amendment? Saying "that exception was not included yet" is not sufficient. It didn't exist for start-ups either, but was also added. Think of an addition for regulated institutions, exchanges, or brokers that have a license or AFM permit. #Crypto #Belasting #Wetgeving (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

Why is it being suggested that you are completely transitioning to capital gains tax, while not mentioning crypto and precious metal investors at all?! Those who will have to pay the capital gains tax and an entire industry with thousands of jobs that will be destroyed?! #vermogenswinstbelasting #crypto #edelmetalen (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

And why on precious metals and crypto then?! Why that difference?! You are now acting as if the wealth appreciation tax is completely off the table, which is not the case. #vermogensbelasting #edelmetaal #crypto (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

Almost nobody in the chamber seems to realize this... Investors in bitcoin, crypto, and precious metals still have to pay wealth tax. Why that difference?! Can someone make a strong case for this in the Chamber? #bitcoin #crypto #belastingen (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

The cabinet wants to spare the small saver and investor with small changes. Then the threshold will most likely go up from 1000 euros to 1500 euros? But so far, there seems to be no change in sight for (small) crypto, bitcoin, and precious metal investors regarding the wealth accumulation tax. #spaarders #beleggen #cryptovaluta (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

Why is there no mention of the crypto and precious metal investor, who will have to pay wealth tax, custodial and non-custodial, and an entire industry with thousands of jobs that is being put out of business?! #crypto #beleggen #vermogensbelasting (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

It's not about a 'rich' country or wealthy citizens. It's about young people who save or invest in the hope that they can one day have a chance at their own home. Keep in mind that the median has 15,000 euros in investments and investors with an asset of 10,000 euros already have to start paying taxes, whereas that was previously 57,000. These are the ordinary Dutch citizens. The investors, the entrepreneurs, the employees. People who work hard, take risks, and create jobs. These are people who are considering leaving because they do not see the Dutch government as a reliable partner. You should be ashamed of that. Now try to keep the welfare state standing. The Laffer Curve in full effect. #woningmarkt #financiën #overheid (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

The government is such an unreliable partner in this... Calling new elections seems wiser to me than continuing down this path. Drastic Box 3 decisions like these deserve a clear democratic mandate. What a disgrace! #politiek #verkiezingen #democratie (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

It's simply not true what you're saying here @eelcoheinen @Minister_FIN!! "It's about people paying taxes with more than a hundred thousand." Investors with around €10,000 will pay taxes on everything above €1,000 in profit. The median has €15,000 in invested assets. So they pay €180 when realizing profits. Now €0. Currently, €59,357 is exempt. If you have that in invested assets, you pay €1,777. Now €0. So how come from a hundred thousand?! #belasting #financiën #beleggen (translated)

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Madelon Vos 2w

From 2028, the capital gains tax will be applied to bitcoin and crypto, which will lead many investors to sell before that time. They are investing in a bitcoin/crypto ETF, ETN, ETP, because of capital gains tax. In 2030, bitcoin and crypto will also be subject to capital gains tax. However, investors will not sell their ETF, ETN, ETP to exchange back for 'actual bitcoin/crypto', because then capital gains tax will come into play. Tax is the behavioral incentive. Control is the goal. #Bitcoin #Crypto #Beleggen (translated)

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