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Roni Arvonen wrote that Finnish decision-makers would prefer to raise the retirement age for working Finns rather than address the guaranteed pensions of immigrants. He argued that the decision-makers despise the Finnish taxpayer. #Eläkeiät #Veronmaksajat #Maahanmuutto (translated)

Alex Günsberg wrote that, according to him, an equivalent amount to Finland's average pension could be accumulated by investing 1,500 euros in the S&P 500 index for a child at birth if the retirement age were 70 years, or 2,100 euros if it were 65 years. He claimed that through the Ponzi scheme he described, 2.4 billion euros in investment costs and 438 million euros in implementation costs were transferred to interest groups of the state. Günsberg stated the TER for costs was about 1.15% and the TER for the S&P 500 index fund was 0.03%. According to him, savings would accumulate about 3 billion euros per year without changes to current pensions if the state's manipulation were stopped. #eläke #sijoittaminen #talous (translated)

Eero Ahtola wrote that he had lost his trust in the pension system a long time ago. According to him, the quintuple increase in pension contributions and the continuous extension of the retirement age were not right. He also claimed that the heavy pension system had led to a poor state of the rest of the economy. https://t.co/Nr3YLpJzyx #eläke #talous #luottamus (translated)

Roni Arvonen wrote that decision-makers would prefer to raise the retirement age of working Finns rather than cut development aid or Kela benefits for immigrants. He estimated that the patience of ordinary working Finns regarding such spending would run out at some point. #eläkkeet #kehitysapu #maahanmuutto (translated)

Tuomo Saarni pondered the significance of organizations and development aid, stating that he would rather raise the retirement age than give them up. According to him, salaries in the public sector's middle management and above were extremely high while the private sector struggled with profitability. He also wrote that solo entrepreneurs ceased their operations because they could not manage their YEL payments, and believed that the value map of society was misaligned. #kehitysapu #yrittäjyys #julkinensektori (translated)

Kari previously mentioned that he used to laugh at people who wanted to break away from society's hustle, but now he said he appreciates those who can do it. He justified his view by claiming that hardworking men were taxed into poverty, the price of diesel was 2.5 euros per liter, the retirement age was 97 years, and the social democrats were winning the elections. https://t.co/RZxCXpzt2e #yhteiskunta #politiikka #verotus (translated)

Laura Korpinen wondered why the retirement age was tied to a fixed age rather than the length of one's career. She suggested that one could retire after a certain number of working years and found it strange that those who started their careers at 18 and 28 had the same retirement age. #eläke #työura #ikä (translated)

Juho Salo criticized Finland's pension system and wrote that if the retirement age were to be raised, it could, in his opinion, be increased all at once to 100 years. He argued that in the system, a worker could pay pension contributions for 50 years, which would correspond to 25 percent of their salary, and receive a pension only at the age of 74. Salo pointed out that, according to him, pension accrual could not be collected. Salo called the system an economic catastrophe. He calculated the total amount of pension contributions and other shares to be 33.7 billion euros: 28.2 billion for occupational pensions, 0.7 billion for employees' shares, and 4.8 billion euros for state contributions. According to him, this amount could be used to pay a monthly basic income of 656 euros in addition to current social benefits and wages without tax increases. He compared the current system to a model where the retirement age would be 50 years and the pension would be 900–1,100 euros per month. Salo believed that money available earlier could be invested by individuals. He also criticized that those born before 1964 would receive the promised pension, while later generations would be left with the bill. Salo proposed that an investment of about 800 euros per month for 25 years would accumulate 240,000 euros without returns and over a million euros with investment returns. He related his comparison to the MSCI World index for the years 2001-2026 and said that wealth would remain for inheritance if 3-4 percent was withdrawn annually. According to him, such a system could make Finnish workers millionaires by the age of 50-60 and free up jobs sooner. Additionally, Salo criticized trade unions for not organizing strikes against pension contributions, development aid, and financing immigration, in his view. He compared the pension system to economic development aid and described it as an even worse solution. #eläke #perustulo #kansantalous (translated)

Professor Fate criticized the proposal by pro-assembly members to raise the retirement age to 70 and claimed that based on their resumes, perhaps only one in ten had ever done any kind of work. He used anti-Semitic and offensive language about them. #Suomi #politiikka #eläke (translated)

STTK opposes the Ministry of Finance's proposal to raise the retirement age to 70, emphasizing that the pension system and the state economy are separate matters and that the position of young people is weakened by the increase in the retirement age. #eläke #työelämä #STTK (translated)

Jari Sarasvuo said he had discussed with his 50-year-old client about how he thought he could manage another 20 years in working life. Sarasvuo mentioned that he had read a recent recommendation from the Ministry of Finance to raise the retirement age to 70. The client had responded that his current self wouldn't be able to handle an additional ten years and that he had thought he would retire at 60. #eläke #työelämä #vanheneminen (translated)

Your target retirement age is 69 years and 5 months, quite difficult to imagine that in 2056 people would still be carrying others up the stairs. A colleague who took the (secret) photo reassured that there's no need to imagine, since paramedics generally kick the bucket or drink themselves into being a patient before hitting sixty. 👍 https://t.co/jM1LhPEFRt #eläkeikä #terveys #työelämä (translated)